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Ryan Day faces defining moment responding to ugly Ohio State allegations

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Ohio State defensive back Jahsen Wint was arrested on Tuesday. (Birm/Lettermen Row)

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Ryan Day faces defining moment responding to ugly Ohio State allegations

Ryan Day is not the primary focus of the story at Ohio State.

But that’s where all the attention will go. That’s where the key response that will help determine how his program is perceived will be made. And the Buckeyes made a big bet when it tabbed him to take over for Urban Meyer that he would know the right way to handle any tough situations — on or off the field.

Make no mistake: The allegations, charges and arrests of defensive backs Amir Riep and Jahsen Wint are horrifying. As initially reported by Eleven Warriors, the details recounted by the victim in this case are troubling and merit the instant suspension from all team activities that Ohio State issued as soon as it was aware of the matter on Tuesday. Both Riep and Wint will get their day in court, and everybody in this country is innocent until proven guilty, so it’s not fair to automatically assume that their careers as reserves for the Buckeyes are over.

So, for now, Day is taking the correct steps in letting the legal matter play out before taking any other action. But he also has the reputation of Ohio State to think about, along with the credibility of his disciplinary program for the roster and the message it could send to both current and future players about what the Buckeyes stand for in the meantime. Day might have seen or heard enough already from the initial police reports to go beyond suspensions and part ways with Riep and Wint, and that would reinforce the idea that the Buckeyes truly aren’t a win-at-all-costs program.

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Ohio State defensive back Amir Riep was arrested and charged on Tuesday. (Birm/Lettermen Row)

That idea might be hard to stomach for many of its rivals. But it’s becoming more true every year with the caliber of people that have signed with Ohio State, the rise in the academic success and how infrequently these types of incidents have occurred. The fact that Day’s most notable bit of off-the-field adversity happened with Chase Young last November drives that point home, since he had no control over the length of the suspension and wound up with plenty of national sympathy for rules that are deemed unfair to the players when it comes to getting paid.

Obviously that issue is completely different than what Ohio State is dealing with now, and this is exponentially more serious. That means it will also reveal even more about the character of the second-year coach.

“[Day] is a stud,” Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said during the Young saga. “All of the things that we thought he was capable of doing have come to fruition. The things that I just wasn’t sure of relative to managing the staff in this building, he’s been of the chance.

“But his response to his first big issue like this? Phenomenal. Kept his focus, never lost his cool, curious and asked a lot of questions … he never lost his focus, which was on the other guys. I thought he was perfect.”

This next test will be bigger for Day. This time he’s going to have to be the one to make the final decision, though it’s still probably too early to know with absolute certainty what the ideal response should be.

It’s going to obviously have a direct impact on Amir Riep and Jahsen Wint. The victim in this case and those feelings must be considered as well. And from there, whatever resolution is reached is going to impact everybody affiliated with the Buckeyes — and not just when it comes to football games or thinning out the depth chart in the secondary.

This situation didn’t start with Ryan Day. But everybody now will be watching how he handles it.

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Thomas Voytko
Thomas Voytko

Regardless of the legal outcome, to preserve the integrity of the program they need to be gone. Call it conduct unbecoming of a player on the Ohio State football team or whatever. If you hold the team to a certain standard, then regardless of guilty or innocent in a court of law it is still not up to that standard.

Lisa Irwin
Lisa Irwin

I Wholeheartedly agree with this comment.

Poliseno
Poliseno

Agreed

Brunstar
Brunstar

I think you hold them to a legal standard period. This is the United States of America, not the Soviet Union. Proof of guilt over public opinion.

Des Wertheimer
Des Wertheimer

Just because someone is found not guilty doesn’t mean they didn’t do it. OSU players should never be within miles of this type of behavior.
In the end though, No Means No!!!!

Brunstar
Brunstar

In the end though they are innocent until proven guilty.

daniel sizemore
daniel sizemore

No means No but I don’t know and neither do you if she actually said No. That’s why people have their day in court.

Thomas Voytko
Thomas Voytko

Ryan Day has always said we recruit a certain kind of player here. They not only need to be good on the field they need to have the right values, good family, etc. Regardless of the guilt or innocence, what they did was questionable at best. Therefore the standard is much higher for the OSU than the legal system. Look at Zach Smith – up until recently he was never convicted of anything, but they still let him go. Same thing.

Brunstar
Brunstar

ZS was fired because he hid something from his boss.

Tell you what, you go up to Reip and Wint and tell them that they are off the team and kicked out of Ohio State because of an accusation. I’d like to see you become legally libel for it. That’s what you’re asking someone else to do. Is it really this hard to let due process play out? SMDH.

Chris Brown
Chris Brown

So, basically what you’re saying is that even you should be fired from your job and never rehired if you’re accused of a crime, even if you’re innocent. Well, that makes sense. Good luck to you if you should ever be accused of a crime. Hope you’ve never had a speeding ticket. You know that is a crime and you should be fired? Plus, you were probably guilty.

Brunstar
Brunstar

This…

Tom Voytko
Tom Voytko

Essentially a lot of places of employment are “at will” in other words when you are hired they can let you go for whatever.

ACollins
ACollins

Associating an accusation of a crime and speeding ticket to what these guys have been arrested and charged with is a leap no one should be comfortable making. Attending Ohio State and playing on scholarship on the football team are not rights, and shouldn’t be confused as such. The lack of judgement to just get to this point is grounds for dismissal, in my mind, even if the accusations turn out to be unfounded.

Beaver
Beaver

I do not think it is fair for you or anyone to say ” now we will see what kind of character Ryan Day has.” Is Ryan day on trial? If he doesn’t do what you deem necessary he will have what , low character?. Huh. Well he threw them off the team like thought he would. I agree with that but if he didn’t , how would you have thought of him?

Bill
Bill

Kick them off the team yesterday. Dismiss them from OSU today. These aren’t allegations on social media, these are arrest warrants and formal charges from the OSU police department. If, and that’s a big if, they turn out to be cleared of all charges, then they can work to earn their spot back on the team.

Until then they have absolutely no right to represent the program or the university.

Aaron
Aaron

I think that you are so right on !!!

Brunstar
Brunstar

Would you like to tar and feather them while we are at it? People like you who do not believe in Due Process scare me.

D.Swizzel
D.Swizzel

Thank you!!

osuS4
osuS4

They get their due process in the legal system. Ohio State does not need to operate in the same way. They should cut ties with them and welcome them back later if they are cleared beyond any shadow of doubt.

Brunstar
Brunstar

So you think anyone accused of rape should automatically be kicked out of a university, off a team? Due Process is a Constitutional right is it not?

Suspended indefinitely is the correct response, that’s what you just described. That’s what Urban did with Storm Klein with the DV accusation. That’s what happened with the Carlos Hyde assault accusation.

henri friweh
henri friweh

Why do we expect our youths to be held to such a high standard, when the president of the usa did rape someone and we say its okay.the players are entitled to die process and that’s what it

Kshed
Kshed

Allegations are very different from charges. Charges are the result of the attorney general believing they have enough evidence to get a conviction. In the Zach smith case, there was not enough evidence for charges. In this case there is.

AZ Buckeye
AZ Buckeye

Their only hope is if their trial can be decided by the US Senate…

Brunstar
Brunstar

I doubt this trial will have testimony from 18 witnesses. Well, 17 witnesses because Schiff refused to release the ICIG’s closed door testimony to the public because the ICIG said that Shciff was in contact with the whistleblower.

JERRY CARTER
JERRY CARTER

There weren’t any witnesses in the senate trail!

Brunstar
Brunstar

There was testimony from 17 witnesses called in the House inquiry. That’s what the manager delivered to the trial.

TLM
TLM

Please pull your head out.

Brunstar
Brunstar

Facts don’t care about your feelings.

TLM
TLM

Let’s not use the word trial, when the jurors discuss the proceedings with the defendant

Brunstar
Brunstar

Or when jurors declare the president guilty of an impeachable act 2 years before a Senate trial. Here the picture of the House managers delivering the testimony of 17 witnesses along with other “evidence” it collected.
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TLM
TLM

The gathering initial evidence in the congress is the indictment. The trial is held in the senate.

Brunstar
Brunstar

Good job, that’s why witnesses are called in The House. The House runs the impeachment. No NEW witnesses have ever been called during the Senate trial. Not for Johnson, Clinton, or Trump. All of the evidence is collected in the House then the Senate trial is based on what was collected, and only what was collected.

The House called 18 witnesses and that testimony was used in the Senate Trial. Schiff only released 17 of those testimonies in order to cover up his lies about contact with the whistleblower. So there were 17 witnesses for the trial, no NEW witnesses needed to be called.

TLM
TLM

the congress comes up with the impeachment much like a grand jury comes up with an indictment. In your world when the case goes to trial no witnesses or new evidence should ever be considered. I’m glad the real world court system doesn’t work this way.

Brunstar
Brunstar

It sounds like you have some research to do. Here’s a link to the National Archives. Go ahead and compare and contrast the impeachments of Johnson, Clinton, and Trump and let me know where I’m wrong. No less than 2 pages double spaced Times New Roman 12 font. I’ll check back in a couple weeks.

I’m sure you’re the kind of person who has to get the last word in so feel free to do so below.

https://www.archives.gov/

TLM
TLM

There is no dispute on how the previous impeachment trials were conducted. Each senate votes on how they are going proceed with their trial.

Kid Buckeye
Kid Buckeye

If the allegations of then making her take a shower and a video afterwards are true …..not good. Makes them look guilty IMO.

Glenn Kilburn
Glenn Kilburn

As compared to the not too distant past, it is refreshing to see these comments from OSU students/fans. The stereotype response would have been to defend the players, especially if it could have affected chances of a potential BIG or NCAA championship. Kudos to a new generation from a PSU Nittany Lion.

Brunstar
Brunstar

I think it’s disgusting that you automatically assume that two accused people are guilty. It completely goes against everything our Constitution stands for.

TypeOHPositive
TypeOHPositive

I don’t assume they are guilty but they were arrested for a felony, Ohio State is not a court of law and they have more leverage as far as what they can/can’t do before a trial, the Constitution is what gives them their day in court and due process…playing football for OSU and bringing negative focus to the team is not bound by the same burden of proof.

Brunstar
Brunstar

“Suspended Indefinitely” Doesn’t that do what you want? Arrests aren’t convictions, and saying that Ohio State can do whatever it wants because it doesn’t have to follow the Constitution is the wrong answer. How about we stop virtue signaling and let the legal process play out. It’s not a big request.

Tom Voytko
Tom Voytko

Exactly

Brian Robbins
Brian Robbins

It’s not necessarily about being guilty or not. It’s more about maintaining an integrity from a football program and a school in general. Especially with all the allegations from the Urban era it would be smart to just play it safe and dismiss them. It would help in all aspects for image.

Brunstar
Brunstar

They were suspended indefinitely. That’s what Urban did to players who were arrested as well. Quit virtue signalling.

Oilmandes
Oilmandes

There are many people who are found not guilty. It doesn’t mean they didn’t do it.

Brunstar
Brunstar

This comment added nothing, thank you.

Jason M
Jason M

It isn’t a difficult decision to make, they are and should be suspended from all team activities, even perhaps suspended from school, until a conclusion is reached in trial. Then Day either reinstates them if they are proven innocent, or they are guilty and they will be put away for a long time.

Bojester
Bojester

Definitely need to be gone if found true without a doubt…but remember Duke lacrosse…

Brunstar
Brunstar

Duke lacrosse, UVA’s Phi Kappa Psi fraternity, Brian Banks, Shawn Oakman, Bri’onte Dunn, Carlos Hyde, Gareon Conley, etc.

Daniel Levy
Daniel Levy

Have no idea of the charges against the young men, and they have already been suspended from team activities at this time. Yet the author insinuates Coach Day must now do more or his reputation and that of the school will somehow suffer. And this while the author mouths the FACT that in America we’re innocent until proven guilty. What’s Day supposed to do now? Destroy these young mens’ lives to satisfy the great gods of the perverse Hollywood “Me too” movement with zero proof? Think 2 words: Duke Lacrosse.

P.Martin Aubry
P.Martin Aubry

How many times have the players heard the warnings and counselling about even getting close to this kind of situation. Utter stupidity at best…horror at worst. Stupidity and disregard are enough to say goodbye.

Brunstar
Brunstar

No, guilt is what you need to say goodbye. You don’t punish people without proof, go back to Moscow.

Poliseno
Poliseno

Well this heinous (alleged) act is unconscionable!

Brunstar
Brunstar

Brian Banks, Shawn Oakman, and Bri’onte Dunn would all like to remind you that people are innocent until proven guilty.

AZ Buckeye
AZ Buckeye

I doubt that Coach Day will decide the final fate for these two student athletes at Ohio State. That decision will come from higher up the food chain.

allinosu
allinosu

The players are rightfully suspended until the legal process does it’s job. On top of that the university should look into other aspects if rules were broken like having the girl in that situation (age, curfew for all, things like football and university rules) is enough to take it further for now. Even if it somehow turns out to be completely false, I would think just being stupid enough to be in that situation in the first place warrant other punishment at the very very very least.

Brunstar
Brunstar

Just remember that university rules are what kicked Torrance Gibson out of Ohio State, and that college universities are kangaroo courts now. Gibson’s situation was a he said she said type of scenario. But I do completely agree with you that the legal process should play out, I just don’t want to see the university punish them for PR purposes.

chibucks
chibucks

i think i read somewhere that 5-10% of rape allegations were proven to be false – not saying that this is the case or not, but need due process. agree that suspend/kick off the team until the legal process does it’s job.

Ira C Lee
Ira C Lee

If only 5-10% of rape charges are false, this undermines the concept of “beyond a reasonable doubt”. Food for thought? Ira Lee Ph.D., OSU 1979.

RoadApples
RoadApples

What’s disgusting to me, outside of this heinous act, is the puffery coming out of what high character students they recruit and they have to “fit” what they’re looking for.

Brunstar
Brunstar

Alleged act, feel free to virtue signal after they are found guilty.

RoadApples
RoadApples

You missed my main point, Day keeps saying how recruits must be a fit with others and fit their culture. He also says he recruits those of high character with a strong family background. That sir, is the puffery I am speaking of. I’d love to find out these are false accusations and move on however, this incident will be following them the rest of their lives and will be another blot on OSU even if they get exonerated.

Squidmyer31
Squidmyer31

I completley understand the innocent until proven guilty…always remember the duke lacrosse case…but you are at a high profile institution and eyes are always on you…these two will have thier day in court but as a new coach day should show that to be a member of this team these actions will not stand and they should be released from the team…now if it comes out that they were innocent then they should EARN thier right to be reinstated not just handed back to them…earning the trust of the players, coaching staff, and student body of the university will be a mighty hill to climb.

Brunstar
Brunstar

They were suspended indefinitely. Anytime that you say “I understand that people have a Constitutional right to Due Process and a presumption of innocence, but…” you need to stop at the “but” and be thankful that you live in the United States.

Jave
Jave

Were you this much of an idiot on 11w?

Brunstar
Brunstar

It only appears that way to people who aren’t intelligent. Thanks for stopping by.

Jave
Jave

Oh, you just play a lawyer on TV.

Ira C Lee
Ira C Lee

Totally agree. You are a person of intelligence, ethics and integrity. Ira Lee Ph.D., OSU 1979.

Ronnie
Ronnie

Being concerned with perception is so far down my list of concerns here. And yeah I know its “reality”, but its a reality that fans have allowed the media to create. Because they then run with it as a part of their poorly formed bar arguments about why so and so school is better than another school.

I want to be proud of my program because it does the right thing when dealing with facts, not because it has a perception of doing the right thing.

Jave
Jave

Wisconsin is the model here. As they did with Cephus, both Riep and Wint should be kicked off the team and expelled from the University. Presumption of innocence is a legal term, applying to court proceedings. If it is later determined that they’re not guilty, they can then be considered for reinstatement.

Brunstar
Brunstar

So basically suspended indefinitely, but in a way that makes them look guilty.

BuckeyeBrain
BuckeyeBrain

are you slow…. sorry, but at my company, if i was accused of what they’re being charged with, i would be fired. if after my trial i was found nonguilty, they could hold a meeting to determine if i would be hired back or not.
you can preach consitution all you want, but i guarantee the same thing would happen to you bud.
PR and reputation is everything.

TLM
TLM

I agree. even if proven not guilty my employer would have moved on. If they needed to they would just say it was for something else.

Brunstar
Brunstar

It’s funny that your screen name has brain in it yet you lack one in real life.

Jave
Jave

It’s hard to express to you just how stupid you appear to be. I’ll try to remind you whenever I see your posts.

Bradyhokebaugh
Bradyhokebaugh

Urban’s recruits. It’s not Day’s fault.

Ira C Lee
Ira C Lee

The double, first-class felony charges against Riep and Wint are reminiscent of the rape charge against the late Kobe Bryant. Kobe stated that the sex was consensual but the charge was later dropped when the alleged victim declined to pursue it. Again, in America you are innocent unless proven otherwise. However, if the the charges against Riep and Wint are found to be true beyond a reasonable doubt, the two players should face the major legal consequences. Dismissal front the football team would be a given. Ira Lee Ph.D., OSU 1979.

TLM
TLM

This case & the Kobe case are in no way comparable. Kobe was a professional with possible monetary reasons to accompany the complaint. Several witnesses made statements that the complainant waited for hours for Kobe to return to the hotel where he was staying. Not trying to draw a conclusion about the Kobe case, just saying they are not comparable.

HDDo-1989
HDDo-1989

If found guilty, dismissal from the team would be the least on their minds. Meanwhile tOSU would receive a massive backlash from public and media, rightfully so, for not being proactive. Day did the right thing by dismissing them after the arrest.

Tvcampee
Tvcampee

For those who think the university should not dismiss these guys look at Brian Snead case. No criminal charges but still dismissed from school.

Ira C Lee
Ira C Lee

The final felony rulings on players Riep and Wint should be based on justice being served, not on vindication or self-righteousness. Sexual misconduct of any form is reprehensible, but guilt has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. As a Buckeye alumnus I am distraught and torn about the overall situation. Ira Lee Ph.D., OSU 1979.

HDDo-1989
HDDo-1989

I’ll make an attempt here. When I was a freshman at tOSU in 1984, we were required to take a freshman orientation class in the remote freshman campus for the 1st quarter on campus. We were taught to follow certain campus rules & regulations. We were also given a copy of the handbook, and I believed we signed a pledge. 25 some years later my 3 daughters went through high school & long and behold, their school also had a student handbook describing expectations & behaviors that can get them suspended or expelled. No difference when these student athletes accept a scholarship. The head coach can dismiss or suspend them indefinitely for conducts which violate their policy. I’m sure being arrested and charged with a serious crime like kidnapping & rape is an automatic dismissal for any head coach for any sport for any college/university. If not, then it’s a sad society we’re living in. Let the criminal justice system deals with the accused crimes. After 30+ years with my current company, I can get dismissed/fired for misuse of the company’s internet like placing a sport bet on the Buckeyes. Is it fair? That’s not the point. The point is… Read more »

Ira C Lee
Ira C Lee

Does a high-profile university like OSU have a higher standard for dealing with alleged sexual misconduct than due legal process? Ira Lee Ph.D., OSU 1979.

Ira C Lee
Ira C Lee

On a lighter note, what would Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby have to say about this situation? Ira Lee Ph.D., OSU 1979.

2073Ride
2073Ride

Because they are not starters, Day will “make a statement“ using these two as an example. If they were star players, OSU Would turn their cheek, as repeated in the past.

HDDo-1989
HDDo-1989

There is some validity to your point with any high profile football program. Since Day is a first time HC, I’m going to give him a benefit of the doubt. Having said that, I’m hoping that he will never have to face this decision ever again with starters or non-starters. Yes, the program bears some responsibility in helping these kids stay out of trouble. But it’s ultimately their decision being 18+ yrs old. They are held accountable for their misconducts. No blame here.

Tom V
Tom V

Oh my it looks like Day didn’t decide to wait until the legal stuff played out. I guess there must be a difference between the legal stuff and how Day perceived the offense.

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Austin Ward is Lettermen Row's senior writer covering Ohio State football and basketball. The award-winning journalist has covered the Buckeyes since 2012, spending five of those seasons working for ESPN after previous stints at the Casper Star-Tribune and Knoxville News Sentinel.

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